‘method is the membrane filter. A measured quantity of air is pulled through a membrane filter which removes all the dust and fibre. In this method only the fibres are counted and hence it is difficult to relate the two res- ults. This latter test is reported as the number of fib- res in a cubic centimeter of air. Both are highly sus- ceptible to human error. Your thimble is 4 good estimate of a cubic centimeter, but it would take 2,000 fibres placed end to end to span the width of the thimble, and the thickness of the fibres would be many times less than ‘he human hair you envisage. The McDonald Report confirms the results of other studies in the Soviet Union and Italy which indicate that \) the risks are much lower in the Chrysotile mining and milling industry than reported from the New York insul- ation workers or the British Naval Dockyards. At our Cassiar mines most of the emissions to the atmosphere are now under control, or in the process of becoming so. control measures, there are still some areas where the wearing of masks is required. These troublesome areas are under active study and an extensive program, designed \) to achieve the best possible threshold levels, is being undertaken. The most serious obstacle in our path is the shortage of personnel. You are already aware of some of the serious effects this has had on production over the past several years. Incidentally, in twenty years of operation we have not had one reported case of any of the three asbestos-related diseases, but we must not be complacent in view of the long latent period (30-45 years which can elapse between the first exposure and the dev- elopment of mesothelioma. This, along with the Quebec studies, is the best assurance we can give any potential employee that things now appear to be under control and the risk of premature death or impairment of health is very remote indeed. "IS THERE A HAZARD IN THE CONSUMER INDUSTRIES?" ° Asbestos from our Cassiar and Clinton mines is used for the greatest part in the asbestos-cement industry, followed by the asbestos textile industry, and to a much . lesser degree in the manufacture of filters, compressed sheet packing, reinforced plastics, and so on. Of these, the textile industry, which until recently was exclusive- ly a dry carding, spinning and weaving process, had had . some comparatively serious dust problems. In the early 1930's, in a particular textile factory in the United Kingdom, signs of asbestosis were found in some 80% of the workers with twenty or more years' exposure. Another survey in 1957 of the same plant showed that in workers _ with twenty years' exposure, after the installation of dust control, the incidence of asbestosis had dropped to 3%. The lung cancer rate in workers in the plant exposed to pre 1933 conditions was at ten times that of the general | populations, whereas it is currently reported to be at: the same level as the general population. .This example clearly demonstrates that with experience and improved technology asbestos can be handled safely. "IS THERE A HAZARD TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC?" You have asked about the risk of living in Toronto, as compared to Thetford or Regina. Most of the studies on the relationship of asbestos diseases to mortality e rates have been carried out in the occupational field, and before absolutely denying any public health risk, scientists agree that more data must be collected over an extended period of time. However, a number of studies have already been carried out and there is to date no evidence, scientific or otherwise, to suggest that anyone in the general public has ever contacted any disease from exposure to the minute amounts of asbestos released into the community air through the use, or wearing, or weather ing of finished asbestos products. As far as water is concerned, the Conference of the International Agency for Research on Cancer, held in Lyon, France, in the fall of 1972 - which I feel should represent as qualified and authoritative an opinion as is available - provided the following information: - ° ’ Question: "Is there evidence of an increased risk of cancer resulting from asbestos fibres present in water, beverages, food, or in fluids used for the administration of drugs?" Answer: "Such evidence, as there is, does not indicate any risk." 3 You might well ask at this point, "If this is so, then why the great hue and cry?" In the scientific, legal and bureaucratic world, there are those who have a craving to push the panic button and who define "a Haz- ard" as "something which may possibly occur", even though they are unable to produce any evidence to support their. Inside the bud tadake: in spite of extensive \) be replaced by other types of materials. CAAA POBPQLBPQ2QPD2Q2BDOQDQPPQOODQOODRODOODOOODDO8?VWSV- LL, &, a, o,f, o,f, o,f, of, Ff, o,f, Ff, oS, oS, of, of, o,f, FS, FS, Ff; Page 5 contentions. No one denies that there have been - and still are - problem areas. The world today is faced with many, many problems, all of which must be viewed in their _ proper perspective, and "panic" reporting and "panic" legislation is not the answer. The asbestos and other industries are working hard to correct the conditions which are thought to create a health hazard. Unfortunat- ely, final proof will not be available for twenty, thirty or even forty years. In the meantime, the best that any. prudent person can do is to continue to research all aspects of the problem, to analyze the facts and trends © as they become known, and to set goals and standards which will progressively reduce the element of risk and hopefully will finally eliminate it entirely. "WHAT IS THE ASBESTOS INDUSTRY DOING ABOUT IT?" In addition to the continuous.development of tech- niques and equipment to improve dust control, the Cana- dian asbestos mining industry, through the Institute of Occupational and Environmental Health in Montreal, the Industrial Health Foundation in Pittsburgh, and selected hospital and universities is sponsoring or co-operating in major epidemeological and research projects, designed to identify and eliminate asbestos-related health risks. There is still a great deal of research to be done. Active studies are also underway in other countries, such as England, South Africa, Italy and Russia. There is already strong evidence to suggest that the physical aspects, (i.e., the length, diameter and stiffness) of a fibre is the real source of trouble, and not its chemical composition. If this proves to be the case, then certain © other fibrous material may also become suspect and the work currently being done on asbestos may well prove to have been a great step forward in our search for a healthier environment. GENERAL COMMENTS I sincerely hope that what I have said so far has answered most of your pertinent questions. Before clos- ing, I would like to add a few comments si a general nature, It has frequently been cuagiaoed that asbestos should This can and has been done in some products, but in others such sub- stitution has been either very expensive, much less effective, or even impossible. To forgo the many bene- fits of asbestos products, simply on the basis of a suspicion of possible hazards, would be irrational and unwarranted, particularly so when we are still uncertain of the health hazards that might arise from many: ‘other replacement materials. Amongst insulation workers in the United States: and the United Kingdom, particularly those who worked in the dockyards during the war years, some very serious health conditions have been found and ably researched and report ed upon. It is a sad story, and the result of a.lack of knowledge at the time and possibly the exigencies of the war years. Very valuable lessons have been learned which will be of great benefit in solving the problems of the present and the future. In the matter of publicizing and reporting, pias iis no doubt that it is far more dramatic and eye-catch- ing to use headlines such as "ASBESTOS KILLS", or for example to report "TWO MILLION FIBRES PER LITRE OF WATER" than to report the same thing as approximately 4/1,000ths of a millionth part of a gram. Let me put these figures to you in another way. If 5,000 people agreed to drink ' two quarts of water, containing four million fibres per quart, every day for 80 years, then they - the 5,000 people - would have swallowed in total one gram of asbestos, which is a cubic pile a little more than half - an inch on each side. Whenever I have the opportunity, I assure you that I will urge all those who have the responsibility for researching and reporting to the public, through what- ever media it may be, to remain as factual and fair in their research as possible and to avoid the ‘half truths' Excellent progress is being made in Canada in improving industrial health and safety, in controlling pollution, and in protecting the environment. Regulatory bodies are being established at various government levels and in co- operation with industry itself to measure and control to the best of our combined technical ability those condit- ions likely to create a risk to the wellbeing of workmen and the public. ~The use of any of these problem areas to solicit public sympathy and support for individual political or monetary gains should be looked upon with © scorn by all decent thinking people. Thank you once again for your letter. I hope that I have put things in a little better perspective for you. Yours sincerely, J.D. Christian