1. UNBC is one of most all universities in Canada and the US that have a women’s centre with women only space. Check out UVIC, SFU, etc., if you don’t believe me. 2. The human rights tribunal, along with the Supreme Court of Canada, recognizes the necessity for oppressed and/or minority groups to gather, in isolation from other groups, for the purpose of re- empowerment. 3. As far as | know, most feminists support Men’s Centres, including myself. Men's Centres have, in fact, aided men and their social difficulties with gendered landscapes by providing a venue to talk to other men about male gender oppres- sion. This can only help women (and men) as it allows for men to learn about gender in a space where they are more comfortable to discuss it. Gloria Steinham agrees with this; there’s a really good book out called, “Women Respond to the Men’s Movement,” that | think more people ought to read to erase their stereo- types about the Men’s Movement and about some feminist thoughts on the sub- ject. 4. Speaking of men’s cen- tres, | have heard that there are some men interested in having one. | would be happy to help them acquire information to set one up at the University, or downtown.. | know it is difficult to get one going, the Women’s Centre here was fortunate enough to have staff and students involved in its set-up prior to the University being built. 5. The Women’s Centre’s mission statement (as set out by their constitution) is: “a student environment for women on campus. The Centre is interested in creat- ing a positive atmosphere that reflects and welcomes the diversity of women’s experiences across sexual, cultural, physical, genera- tional and economic lines. 6. Some of the women | know that utilize the Centre use the space for breast feeding, studying safely and quietly, crying, socializing, talking about women’s issues, organizing their own events, researching women’s issues, safety from sexual harassment, sharing ideas, and just hanging out. | would guess that about 150 differ- ent women have used the space since the beginning of the semester. | couldn’t begin to represent the rea- sons why they use the space. 7. This space is not just for a feminist fringe. It hasn’t been in the past and still is not. Not all women that share the space agree on given issues, feminist ones especially. The space is used in good taste, and if you don’t believe me, ask someone or go see for yourself. There is no male bashing there. There is no plotting or scheming, or whatever people think exists there. In fact, there is not one negative thing | have heard said about the Centre that is true. 8. Since | have been here (September, 1996), | have not had one person come to the women’s centre door and ask me why it is a women only space. | have, however, heard many unfounded com- plaints and stereotypes. 9. By calling down the women’s centre, you are cre- ating more isolation for women who need it. Imagine this: it's a woman’s first year on campus and she is shy, she gets drunk, and she gets date raped. The people around her are all saying that the women’s centre is bad. In fact, she may have repeat- ed the sentiments herself previously. She is now men- tally isolated from a venue that can tell her what her rights are and can get her legal advice, counseling, or just a place to duck out and hide for awhile, until she heals. THIS REALLY HAS HAPPENED. Fortunately, there was a volunteer who found out and helped her out. She uses the centre now and again for emotional support today. The ninth comment is just one example of the diversity of issues that the women’s centre is equipping itself for. It can tell you information about breast cancer to mechanics that don’t rip you off. | don’t understand why anyone would call the women’s centre down, except for the fact that they just haven't understood what REALLY goes on behind the batik. Tobi Araki DAVID UNBC DOES Last night | attended David Suzuki's book promotion lec- ture and heard him talk of many things that made a lot of sense to me. He spoke of humanity's need to start treating the elements of air, water, earth, and fire with reverence, as they are sacred. These are good thoughts. Yet, of course, nothing he said last night was anything new or insightful - except, perhaps, the scientific slant he gave on a few. things. My elders of: the Cree Nation, and@ for that matter every other nation, have been saying as much to European settlers for cen- turies, ever since Columbus fell onto the shores of Turtle Island. Therefore, wisdom about the natural world (yes, this includes humans too) has never been lacking. But, at this point, that’s all history now. So with all due respect to Mr. Suzuki’s contribution to environmental education and awareness in mainstream thought, | needn’t be led down history's path on how things once were by a repen- tant prodigal scientist. But that’s a personal opinion, nothing more. As for present and future approaches to the natural world, which is what he was impressing upon people, Yes! By all means, let every- one begin paying homage to the source of life - planet earth. Even is this is only, say, about 500 years too late. But still, as a recovering heart-attack victim would likely tell you, ‘it’s never too late’ to start living and think- ing about the right way to live, that is, taking a healthier approach to living. However, we might also keep this in mind that this person will probably tell you that he isn’t naive enough to think that by doing so he's going to live as (external) freely as before or that he'll live unburdened by the spec- tre of death. No, | don’t think he could. Our individual shore- and long-term prospects for life is relative to our internal and external physical condition, and its “quality” is governed by our state of mind. No? Which then brings me to my quasi-question which | posed to Mr. Suzuki last night. Essentially, | asked him (or was trying to) for his thoughts on whether or not he would be willing to start a dis- cussing the very likelihood that we won't “hit the brakes” or perhaps even “slow down.” Thus, my _ hidden premise -perhaps it was not that hidden— was that this country’s (internal) physical conditions are under a lot of and the planet's stress, conditions are even more so, and finally, as he said himself, old-styled economic imperatives are shaping and prioritizing our decisions (mind). Hence, | posed my question to him. Now my question to all of you. Are you willing to ratio- nally talk about how you would like to see you society (at whatever level) deal with the all too real possibility that we will one day be mired in small and large soci-eco- nomic clamities due to either war, famine, pestilence, or death (all of which would like- ly stem from an environmen- tal crisises of one nature or another -and yes, | know its a biblical reference)? In the 1950s some people in this society, especially gov- ernments, choose to build private bomb shelters to sur- vive a nuclear war. This their way to rationally respond to this real possibility -despite, in my opinion, the irrational logic that got people into that mess in the first place. In Vancouver, the city has an emergency plan to deal with the big earthquake that is predicted to hit there some- time soon. Again, another rational response to an impending catastrophe. On a personal level, some people Over The Edge - Page 7 put money way and stock up on skills (and degrees) to fight off the possibility of long-term unemployment. Another rational approach to the future. Why should this be any different? Notwithstanding the enormity of what lies ahead, can’t we get out our computer mod- ellers and start looking at some scenarios just so we have an idea of what might happen and how we want our governments to respond? | think that perhaps it's time to take this hot topic our of the hands of doomsday fiction writers and put into the hands of cold academia for an in-depth analysis. Perhaps then in knowing we can get our individual and community priorities straight before hand and not allow ourselves to be lead astray .by prophets of false hope and purveyors of -soothing self-affirma- ttions. We still have a “window of opportunity oO remove some of the guesswork in what lies ahead. Do you think we should at a least try? | was once taught that exhibiting humility in the face of power greater that oneself can sometimes open a to an empowering thought, all the while providing the strength necessary to close the door on less empowering one. 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