. at UNBC with “” 8 over THE EDGE - Wednesday, November 30 , 1994 Imaginary threats Editor, I read the two letters regarding the Women's Centre increasing dismay. If I interpret the writers correctly, a principle concern is the perception that the Women's Caucus is hostile towards males. Let me assure them that this is not the case; I and my 16 month old attended the potluck in Fort George Park. Perhaps at his age, my son's inherent gender might be in doubt (I can't attest to his sexuality as yet) but no knives, verbal or otherwise, were wielded at me simply for being male. The personal threat the writers seem to feel may be fualed by watching too many variations of Basically Fatal Attractive Instincts, or some - such nonsense in the "woman as (sexual) predator" genre. In one of my classes I recently encountered the view expressed by Mr. Malcolm that an opinion cannot be wrong. However, an opinion § can certainly be questionable if it is based on fallacious assumptions or incomplete information, and is generally contradicted by evidence. . One truth, as witnessed by the upcoming anniversary of the Montreal massacre, is that women are overwhelmingly the victims of violence perpetrated by men (but of course, not all men). Is this an example where women should blame themselves, or is this an unsubstantiated claim of oppression and sexism? Both writers may be sincere in their belief in equality and would therefore not want any exclusive club, group or activity. However, any number of activities sanstioned by the university have the effect of being exclusive, e.g. the football club. Its rules may not nature it will do so. Therein lies the subtlety of the debate we face: how exactly to define equal treatment or equality. Those who have benefited most from the existing system usually feel the status quo is fair. After all, what experience do they have that it is otherwise? If the writers are sincere about contributing further to this debate, perhaps they will go back and question their assumptions and preconceptions, before joining . in again. Yours sincerely, Will Low Lecturer, Economics Programme Editor's note: The Football Club is not an exclusionary organization and has no gender distinctions. They have one woman on their team and encourage female participation The feminist threat Editor, I have just read two letters in your second issue which identify a dire threat to the integrity and perhaps, the very existence, of the University from a quarter that I had not suspected. I refer to the FEMINIST THREAT. A coterie of militant women has appropriated a cubbyhole unto itself from which men are excluded! Imagine men being excluded from part of a university! (Of course it is not relevant that until relatively recently women were excluded from universities altogether.) Al least this women's retreat has a glass wall so that men can observe for themselves that . nor satanic rituals performed. My conception of a university is a place where people have a chance, perhaps the only chance in their lives, to be exposed to a free flow of ideas. I think that any group of like-minded individuals should be allowed, nay, encouraged to form and make its thoughts and concerns felt. If these women feel a common concern, let them form their group and exchange ideas and whatever else they want to do. If the men want to do the same, let them; who cares? If I join a club, I expect its meetings to be free of people who do not share our interests. If women have common concerns, they should Letters to the Editor Women's Centre is a logical consequence Editor, Congratulations to the Women's Center for so quickly and effectively putting together an organization essential to UNBC's well-being. Some men appear to be angry or hurt that they are excluded from the Women's Center. Yet surely we can agree that groups of people should have the right to meet among themselves. I belonged to a _ university organization, Men Against Rape, that did not include women in its meetings,and to my knowledge not a single women ever complained about it. It is particularly important for women, long the targets of male dominance and male violence, to have at least one place on campus to be together. Some men are also upset be able to join together without the intrusion of men who do not share those concerns or problems. Add to this that many of those concerns and problems may be caused by men, and they have very valid reasons for wanting a space of their own. Another obvious reason for excluding men is that there just might be times when women want to have a serious discussion without some goof trying to hit on them. Without trying to stifle the free flow if ideas that I have just encouraged, I suggest that those men eho feel so threatened by these women lift their sights and observe the great dangers to our society and way of ligfe. How that members of the Women's Center are talking about how men oppress women. Yet we all profit from such insights. Feminist critiques of male dominance have added immeasureably to the quality of my life and have made me a better teacher, researcher, husband, friend, and father. Women's anger is a logical consequence of male dominance. Being a strong and compassionate man requires listening to and respecting that anger, not trying to silence it. Yours, David del May Yy US about devoting some of that energy and vitriol to protesting the dismantling and sale of Canada or the destruction of our social fabric? Yours, James Lougheryy % : bombs are not.being constructed exclude women but by its Cy AB Ninel = poh sey QORED, BORED, BORED... QUT WHAT © NO? 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