12 Geo. 5 ENGINEERING AND Economic Frarures. R ii number of thousand feet of timber he has to haul out. The result, be it at a rate of 2 cents or $1 per ton-mile, he will add to his cost of production, and if there is still a chance to sell the product at a profit the road will be built; that is, the traffic must bear the expense of operating plus the cost of construction. If the operation was to be continuous, then the traffic would have to bear the cost of operation plus the interest on the capital invested. If he finds that the traffic will not bear the expense the road is not built. Is there any business-man who will argue that the cost per ton-mile is the same on all or any two of these yarious roads that go to make up 1,000 miles mentioned above? Is there any logical argument that can be put forward to prove that because the New York Central Railway can operate at a profit at 1 cent per ton-mile, a four-track road between Buffalo and New York with over 100 trains per day, with light rates of grade, with capital charges per mile for construction not much, if any, greater than that of the Pacific Great Eastern Railway, that the rates on the Pacific Great Bastern Railway, with heayy grades and light traffic, should not exceed 1 cent per ton-mile? What were the conditions before the Railway was constructed? ‘The rate, I am informed, from Ashcroft to Barkerville was 11 cents per pound. This, I compute, amounted to about 80 cents per ton-mile. This was over a highway built by the Government on which the freighters paid no toll or any item to defray interest charges and at a time when the dollar was worth much more than it is to-day. The freighters, during the construction of the road, hauling construction materials, oats and other farm products, using modern motors on roads constructed and maintained without any cost to them, charged from 75 cents to $1.25 per ton-mile. Now when the road is in operation they complain because they have to pay a rate of 1.2 cents and for short haul or less than car-load lots up to 10 cents or more per ton-mile. I fully realize the difficulty in making satisfactory rates or equitable rates. ‘There are certain commodities that cannot moye if they had to bear a rate to pay the cost of operation plus interest. These com- modities, I know, will haye to be moyed at low rates. Providing the rate is not actually below operating cost, no railway management, either private or public, is justified in carrying any class of freight at less than cost, thereby imposing an unjust burden on the other patrons of the road or upon the taxpayers, as the case may be. Another factor is competition that you must meet, providing the traffic can be carried at a rate not less than the cost of operation. Let us put the question in this light: Would any sane business-man build a factory where the construction costs, on account of adverse conditions, were from three to five times what they would be in more favourable locations, where the operating costs would be from 50 to 100 per cent. greater than in more favourable conditions, and where the production would be limited to one-tenth or one- twentieth of the capacity of the plant, if under all these adverse conditions he would be compelled to sell his products at the same price as his competitors who were working under the most favourable conditions? On the other hand, if the expediency demanded the construction of the plant under these adverse conditions, what would he think of those who would argue that the products of this plant be sold to local patrons at the same price local patrons of the more favourably located plant would pay? When the price charged for motor-haul running on a Government-constructed highway is from 50 to 100 times the rates charged by a railway with an operating ratio of 191.6 per cent. and the deficit made up by the taxpayers, there is created an injustice that should not be tolerated. If the Eskimos are discussing the railway question, they cannot blame their small amount of trade on railway rates, as they have no railway. Their adverse condition which restricts their trade is location. Now, if railway connections were made with all parts of their country and the possible trade of that country was required to bear the cost of operation and interest on inyestment, trade would not be increased because the traffic could not bear the expense. We might then, however, hear the Eskimo join in the popular ery that they were victims of unjust freight rates. There is one objection to raising freight and passenger rates on the Pacific Great Bastern Railway—namely, that those who are opposed to Government ownership and operation of railways will use the fact as an argument to further their ideas, but such an argument will not be a logical one or a just one. It has nothing whatever to do with Government ownersbip or Government operation. It is a business matter, pure and simple. A road is constructed over mountains involving very heavy construction charges, very heavy rates of grade involving heavy operating expense, and the traffic is very limited. For argument’s sake, we will assume that the trafiic is sufficient to pay interest on fixed charges plus operating expenses at rates of 50 per cent. of these charged by the railway’s competitors (freighters). Is it not an economical proposition to build the road and reduce transportation charges by 50 per cent.? Mave the people of that